Derani was nearly 50, single and with a 19 year old daughter when she birthed surrogate baby Hamish in October of 2020 for her cousin Brendan and his gay partner. They worked with a Canadian egg donor and Queensland Fertility Group in Brisbane to create embryos. However this was a long-distance relationship with Derain in Melbourne and her IPs in Brisbane. Physically it was a tough journey. Deranin will discuss the highs and lows of carrying a pregnancy as a surrogate during Covid.